love it. but that makes me think that development is no longer the bottleneck —distribution and positioning are. and my bet that the ASim fucntionality will find it place in the current media platfrom.
say, if tiktok launches an ai app store, it won’t be for complex software—it’ll start with low-friction, high-retention apps: ai-powered video enhancements (think face-swaps, lip sync, object replacement) or micro-utilities, something like ASim does.
for platforms, it’s obvious—more engagement, higher monetization, and a new vertical.
for creators, it’s a no-brainer—why funnel traffic to some app store when you can keep users inside tiktok, get them to install, and even monetize directly?
even the infamous 30% app store cut could be creatively sidestepped—imagine launching your own meme coin for in-app purchases instead.
thanks for the kind words! yep, this is exactly how we're thinking about this space as well! we think as software dev costs compress, it'll become a new modality of expression, similar to how we've seen images and video platforms take off as creation costs start to really compress.
The embedded mini-app ecosystem is a real model in China. Wechat being the most popular platform. Douyin also has a good share of it. You even see such ecosystem in payment apps like Alipay. I'm also certain there are special deals with Apple structured around this concept.
I tried and keep stuck in a loop between "Oops! Simulation failed" and "Try Fixing".
It's always the same error but it's not displayed in full: "Error: 297:3:invalid statement encou..." ('encountered' probably? but where? how? why not show the full error?)
Also, what are 'Agent' and 'Genius'? (two different app candidates?)
we're currently planning on adding the ability for app creators to charge users, similar to Roblox/Robux if you're familiar, and that revenue will be shared between us and the app creator
currently they only live inside of aSim, but we are playing around with the idea of being able to export apps. the Android APK export is definitely doable, but the iOS side is definitely more challenging, so unsure if we will commit to it.
What about monetization? Do you think integrating ad networks or IAP and then sharing ad monetization revenue or IAP revenue with developers is a good way to go?
we're definitely under heavy load right now - might be hitting some rate limits. can you try again now? if it still doesn't work, hit me up at dli@asim.sh or on our discord https://www.asim.sh/discord and i'll get you sorted!
We’re a bit different than these since our apps are instantly deployed, not deployed through expo. So right after generation, you tap on your app and it loads and is usable, kinda like a webpage.
React native definitely seems to work the best! I think the current generation LLMs have just seen so much js/ts they can just about do anything in those languages.
I think you're missing some too. I've been vaguely following and have seen very few that actually seem to have any apps on the app store and those that I found were basic examples.
yea there's a ton now that i've stopped trying to keep tabs on them. i agree that most 'vibe-coded' apps are still really, really basic, so we try to lean into that. give some cool apis that make certain things easy, and make it easy to create kinda dumb, but fun apps. the sweet spot is usually some kind of meme, or something with your friends, like https://asim.sh/@rish/s/157178/create-a-cute-gamified-app-ca...
thanks! we just use good old fashioned postgres running on azure, paired with a node server and blob storage in r2. i like how simple it is, and logs show up in places i'd expect without having to remember how to navigate some ui. queuing was something that took a bit to figure out correctly, but pg-boss ended up being the most straighfoward/easy to deploy on our infra.
oh man sorry i didnt mean YOUR backend, i mean the backend of the apps that you make. in the demo video you showed something about Yikyak clone. whats the backend of that?
haha oh, these kinds of clones are mostly just built on basic KV stores that we store in our postgres db! there's a couple different types of KV stores we give the app generations, but it's mostly just differing auth types (global, private, shared w/ friends).
Thx for the feedback - didnt have a chance to implement email otps (will start that now!) and even less didn’t want to figure out sign in with google/apple
unfortunately we've already been targeted by a small scale DOS attack (or wallet attack?), and account creation on our most expensive model was the only way we could solve the problem for now :/