23 points by PaulHoule 2 days ago | 2 comments
creamyhorror 7 hours ago
Interesting that higher rice content in beer "revealed buttery, vanilla and creamy notes" and "was correlated with increased levels of larger alcohol molecules, like 3-methyl-1-butanol, which contribute positively to mouthfeel without raising the alcohol content above the legal nonalcoholic beer threshold." Do those larger alcohol compounds have known downsides similar to ethanol (e.g. carcinogenicity)? I'd sure like lower-alcohol beers that pose less health risk.

Most mainstream Japanese lager is made partially from rice (in these lagers, over 1/3rd of the grain used is rice), so the flavor difference is probably already familiar to many people.

someothherguyy 7 hours ago
> Do those larger alcohol compounds have known downsides similar to ethanol (e.g. carcinogenicity)?

From a cursory search, yes. It is more toxic than ethanol, even in gross terms like LD50.

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/isoamylol#section=...

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/source/hsdb/605

ginko 6 hours ago
Longer alcohols also contribute a lot to hangovers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusel_alcohol?useskin=vector

normie3000 5 hours ago
Nice, so we can have a beer that doesn't get us drunk, but does give a hangover?
bbarnett 1 hour ago
A puritian dream. Pay, sinner, pay for your hedonistic pleasures!
aleph_minus_one 7 minutes ago
> A puritian dream. Pay, sinner, pay for your hedonistic pleasures!

I am not aware of such uses for alcohol, but for hallocinogenic drugs, there exist people who don't use them for hedonistic pleasures, but for getting creative, scientific or spiritual inspirations.

shermantanktop 7 hours ago
Rice and corn are common ingredients in beers that I don’t enjoy, and are rarely in beers that I do enjoy. Ultimately it is a matter of preference, but…they are cheap ingredients, and finding reasons they are great seems like a retcon.